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Monday, July 15, 2024

Translating and mistranslating a Spanish hotel registration form - lost in translation


 

I kept my registration form from a hotel in Spain, Hotel Zenit Coruna, and used it to revise my Spanish vocabulary. I experienced a few surprises, words I had mis-translated in my mind,

1 Datos del viajero looked like dates of the trip. It was not. It was details of the traveller.

2 Segundo apellido was not second name of middle name, meaning second given name. It was second surname or family name. Spanards use their mother's maiden name or family name as a middle name. 

3 Direccion is not directions but address.

4 Fecha is not facts but dates.

5 Firma del viajero is not confirmation of the trip/journey/stay but signature of the traveller. 


Spanish - English

datos - data/ 

detalles - details

direccion - address

direcciones - direcions

fechas - dates

segundo apellido - second surname

viaje - journey

viajero - traveller

https://translate.google.com/


English - Spanish

address - dreccion

data - datos

dates - fechas

details - detalles

directions- direcciones

journey - viaje


Useful Websites

Trasnslate google

https://translate.google.com/

 

Saturday, April 3, 2021

Table at 7 in Singapore - Delightful Decor and Dishes

 

Sticky date pudding with almonds. Photo by Angela Lansbury

Useful Websites

Useful Websites

table at 7

Tel: 6235 6275. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emping



About The Author Angela

Angela Lansbury is a British author who has lived in the USA.

Angela Lansbury, travel writer and photographer.

Angela Lansbury teacher of English (advanced and English as a Second Language or English as a Foreign Language, French and other languages, aspiring polyglot.

Angela Lansbury, author and speaker. Member of many toastmasters  speaker training clubs and speaking contest judge.

Angela Lansbury, the author of 20 books including Wedding Speeches & Toasts, and Quick Quotations, has lived in the USA, Spain and Singapore. 
She  has several blogs and writes daily on at least two of the following:



Friday, February 19, 2021

I was Double booked! Two zoom meetings. Disaster. Embarrassment. Confusion.


This week I was double booked. Online meetings. Whats app messages. Are you free on such and such a date? First of the month.

I replied Yes.

Then I got a message from another: This happens a lot. VIP asks you. Helper chases you. 

Can You confirm you are free on the first of the month?

Yes. 

Now, to me 'confirm' means they already asked, so I assume this refers to the previous event.

The meeting switches from afternoon to evening.

On the evening I log in.

I ask for the meeting program. They say they already sent it.

I can't find it.

Then I get a frantic call from another. Where are you?

Already logged in.

I can't see you.

We go around this whole loop again.

Eventually person two asks if I can see him.

No. But I can see the meeting chair person. Ray.

\Ray is not the meeting chairman. I am 'Harry'.

You are essential. We are waiting for you.'

'Send me the zoom link, Harry.'

I tell the other group,' sorry, gotta, Emergency. I'll explain later.'

From now on I shall insiste that anybody sending me a meeting and a date, must tell me the organization and names of all persons who will be chasing me, to prevent another mix-up.


Tuesday, December 18, 2018

Why I Prefer Paper awards to ribbons

This paper award provides a record of the time and place.

Photo by Angela Lansbury.

It would be better to have a wider line above name, and to write in the surname. 

Thursday, November 15, 2018

How to read start reading Chinese Signs. What you will recognise from the number one, two and three in Chinese?

Problem
I cannot read Chinese. I see elderly Chinese men, the elderly are called 'uncles'. They look elderly and shabby and not well-dressed or well educated. Yet they can read the complicated Chinese language. Maybe they learn to speak Chinese at home and learned Chinese at school, for free, not at an expensive private school.

However, if they can read pages of Chinese, you and I, who can read English, could at least learn one or two easy characters.

The easy characters are one, two and three, horizontal lines like Roman letters turned sideways.

Ten is like a plus sign.

From this you can read English signs and refer to the Chinese alongside and recognize:

one
two
three

on a calendar
on opening times

days of the week

2018 - starts with 201

But in Chinese numbers are written as sometimes as you would say them, so 20 is not two zero but twenty written as two ten, two horizontal lines and then a plus sign for ten.

The sign for trishaw is three-wheel-vehicle so you can recognize the three horizontal lines starting the three character word on signs and trishaws.



Go around Singapore seeing how many Chinese numbers you can identify on signs. A game to play with yourself or your children.
Chineasy


If you want to learn more, try Chineasy or Duolingo.
Useful Chinese Language Websites
https://www.ted.com/talks/shaolan_learn_to_read_chinese_with_ease?language=en#t-354732
http://www.zhongwenred.com/lessonone.htm
https://www.duolingo.com/course/zh/en/Learn-Chinese-Online

Useful Singapore Tourism Websites
Singapore Tourist Board

Singapore Airlines
singaporeair.com

Chinatown Heritage Centre
www.chinatownheritagecentre.com.sg

Author
Angela Lansbury


Wednesday, October 3, 2018

Record Your Full Name and Date On Awards

An Undated Ribbon NEEDS DATE AND A NAME
I just won another ribbon at Toastmasters. I immediately wrote the date and place on the back. I noted in my diary that I had won a ribbon. I had noted in my diary the club which I was visiting. Add the country, if you travel to other countries. On the day you know where you are. Six months or years later you will be looking at awards and wondering, where was that from?

TEACHER'S CREDENTIALS

TRAVEL WRITERS

 I went to a travel writing course at Writers' Holiday in Fishguard, Wales. The course leader proudly said that she had published more than 100 travel articles. I wondered how many I had had published. At about ten a year for ten years that would be at least a hundred, probably more. But I had no record. Her statistics gave her confidence and enabled her to inspire confidence in the audience.

SPEAKER INTRODUCTIONS
What roles have you done as a speaker?
As an evaluator or judge?



We are often told at Toastmasters International speakers' meetings that the audience won't warm to you if you start by boasting of your achievements. Also they may feel discouraged. How can they compete?

You have to show them that you started from zero and ended up a hero. (Over what time span?)

At that point I had no record.

PUPILS AND PARENTS SEEK CREDENTIALS
 On the other hand, parents looking for a teacher for their children are impressed by qualifications.

EMPLOYERS SEEK CREDENTIALS & EXPERIENCE
You need credentials when you are competing for attention in an advertisement offering a jo to candidates, or as a service provider or teacher. You also need to present your credentials in a CV (resume) when you apply for a job and at the job interview when there is only one position but several candidates.

LOSING COUNT
I started winning ribbons at Toastmasters for the best Topics speaker (impromptu speaker) best speaker and best evaluator. After I won fifty ribbons I started to lose count. I put them up in pictures frames around the house and ran around counting them. I made a list. I wrote large in my diary: I WON A RIBBON FOR ... AT  ...

 I wrote a white label on the back of the label.

PHOTO RECORD
One speaker did not keep a count of his trophies but showed a photo of himself surrounded by trophies. He told me, "I showed that photo to reassure the audience that they had not wasted their time and money. They were listening to an award-winning expert."

Add Your Names
Looking at my ribbons, which had the date and place, I realised an essential was missing. I knew it was my ribbon. But if I were to keep it all my life, I needed to note my name on it for my descendants, executors and others. I had inherited many items which had no name, wedding photos, even poems.

 Finally I remembered to add my own surname (family name). I initially wrote merely my first name, Angela.Then I added my surname. If I ever get a grandchild or daughter-in-law named Angela, other people will be confused. If I were to drop the item or lose it on a plane, nobody would be able to track me down and return it.

If you found awards in the family of a relative who had died with no name attached, you would not know whether this was an award to granny, her father, her husband, her emigrated son or daughter or a pretty or historic item she had bought in a shop.

Story Of A Delayed Funeral Due To Unlabelled Medals
My friend 'B' was in Korea in his early days and when he died his family found Korean war awards. At his funeral we had a delay because his son thought father had won awards in the Korean war and  displayed the medals on the coffin and wrote about them in the funeral speech.

However, an irate aunt said they were not the deceased man's medals because he was in a commercial service, the merchant navy, not the military. She suspected the medals were merely sentimental souvenirs probably bought from a shop or on line.

She told me, "It would be an insult to my father, who was awarded medals in the war, denigrating his achievement and honour, to display the medals as if somebody not in the war had won them!"

The moral is, label everything.

Author
Angela Lansbury, travel writer and photographer, author and speaker. 
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Tuesday, August 28, 2018

Filing Photos By Dates - why label, keep or use old photos?

Problem
How to find photos you took years ago, or at an unknown date?

Places And Useful Labels
In my photos system, I have a section called places. This can be very handy. I used to leave my photos unlabelled. Now I tag them with every tag I can think of.
Eiffel Tower, Paris, France

It's obvious that the Eiffel Tower is the Eiffel Tower, is in Paris, and that Paris is in France. However, if I have a moment, I will label it, with all three pointers. The reason is that, a week or year later, if I am writing about Paris and want a symbol, I can find one quickly.

When you have several photos it is handy to have as much detail in labelling as possible. For example, I might have two dozen photos of a famous building, or even my own garden or balcony. I can see if one picture is a sunset or a daytime or nighttime photo. I can see if it is lawn (green grass), or a rose, or even a tree.

A Rose
Cut Red Rose on table.

But these labels will be handy hours, days or weeks later if I am looking for a picture of a rose, contrasting drought or weeds with green grass, or comparing the pine trees of England with the palm trees of Singapore.

I could label my rose as flower, or rose, or red rose, or red rose in vase or flower container, or red rose on table, to contrast with pink rose in garden.
Pink rose growing in garden in London, England.

 I have to search only one file and everything is in date order, the date of the email. In photo storage, the photos are stored when they were taken.

Downloading Photos
So If I download a free photo from Wikipedia, which was taken at the Notting Hill Gate Carnival in 2017, I would have to recall that it was taken in 2017 in order to find it.
Queen Victoria. Where?

I once downloaded a photo of a statue of famous composer and the photo instantly disappeared. I thought it had failed to be downloaded from the server to my computer.

The Statue of Liberty. When?

For weeks I did not realise what was happening. Then started looking for another Photo and found my statue picture. I finally twigged that my photos were being stored under the date they were taken. The solutions?

Important Dates
Firstly, to notice when the picture was taken from the detailed description in Wikipedia. I never used to take much notice of dates. Now I make a point of noticing every time.

I used to hate out of date pictures. Who needs a picture of their own high street or a shop from five years ago or ten years ago. For a travel writer, an out of date photo, even six months in a four-season country is a waste of time. A snowy scene is useless when you are writing in summer. Unless you are writing about booking a ski holiday for next Easter.

As a travel writer, I used to be selling stories immediately I came back from a trip. I had up-to-date photos and experiences.

Photographer?
You want to label the phtographer to give credit. I also want to know whether a photo was taken by me or by soembody esle. I might prefer to have a statue with a live person beside it.
Angela Lansbury standing by statues in Singapore. Photo by Angela Lansbury. Copyright.


Statues by railway station in Singapore. Photo by Angela Lansbury. Copyright.

Statues in Singapore. Photo by Angela Lansbury. Copyright.

Old Photos - Out of Date?
Now I can see the point of the old photos. You can show before and after photos. Has the new decor of a restaurant improved on the way it used to be a year ago? Will I or you or another reader be able to see that the place they remembered and didn't like has improved for the better?

I was at a meeting of travel industry people at the annual World Travel Market in London. One member of the audience complained that Tripadvisor kept old reviews. He said any review more than a month ago was irrelevant. The chef might have changed. The seasonal menu would have changed.

I disagreed. I had been to a hotel which has a broken window in a bedroom. The owner told me it had just happened and he would fix it. Should I believe him? I went online and discovered that people had been complaining about that and similar problems for years. Nothing got repaired or fixed. If I had only had this week's complaint, I might have thought it was one off. By carefully analysing all the reports over the years, it was clear that those people in the renovated top floor rooms gave the hotel glowing reports. Those in the middle floor rooms were all complaining.

Another interesting point. If all rooms in a hotel are the same size, you don't know whether you will get a good room or a bad one. Since the rooms were different sizes, you could see at a glance that a three-bed family room on the top floor was in good condition. So, you had to ask for and only book if you could get a three-bed family room.

You might think, if the place is run down in some areas, surely you should not give them your business at all. However, if you didn't want to pay twice the price for bland chain hotel room which could be in any country of the world, the hotel with the piano-playing owner, statues in the garden, board games for children, a clientele of bohemian and off-beat visitors to talk to, might be just thing - provided you got the renovated room and not the one with the broken window.

The other point is that I hesitate to say anything bad about a hotel or restaurant. What I think is a small portion might be just right for somebody else. Better to show a photo and let the viewer judge for themselves. My family can't agree on a meal. We have totally different tastes.

The old saying, a picture is worth a thousand words, holds true. An old picture showing the place is just the same, or tally changed, may be very useful.

But how do you find the old picture? We have come full circle.

Author
Travel writer and photographer, author and speaker, Angela Lansbury. Please bookmark your favourite posts and share links with your family and friends.

Thursday, June 8, 2017

Do you want to make a book of your travels?

Problem
You want to make a memory book of your travels. What are your choices?

Answers
1 PHOTO BOXES
Stick them in a shoe box with card dividers by date or country. I visited the head of a photographic society in new Zealand. He had a room the size of a library full of photos of his lifetime's travels. How did he keep track? He filed everything in date order. Everything was numbered by first the date and then consecutive numbers. So 1990's first photo was 1990/1/1/1. The first of January 1991. It was in the box kept in date order.

He kept a second index by subject. So photos ofMount Fuji or whales would be listed by the subject and date. For example, Whales 1990/1/1/2. The second photo taken on Jan 1st 1990 would be a whale. he could get out a dozen photos on a subject, and later replace them, and later still find them again.

Most holiday records will be for yourself and friends and family, a hen party, stag do, or club, about 25 people maximum, meaning printing about 25 copies, rather than selling to the public. You can also do a one-off book for yourself, as insurance against losing your phone or computer or website.

2 PHOTO CALENDARS

3 PHOTO BOOKS
Yesterday evening June 7th 2017, I sat with a friend looking at the prices of producing a book. We found:

On Lulu.com a paperback book, black and white photos inside (colour cover)
for 100 pages black and white photos inside would cost £2.95 to print.

For 115 pages black and white would cost £3.17 to order a printed copy.
A colour book for 115 pages would cost £16.98.

Postage was expensive. Depending on whether you wanted just royal mail, or were wiling to pay extra for tracking. The highest postage rate was for next day delivery plus tracking. Why would you ever be in such a hurry? You should order well in advance. What tends to happen is you decide three weeks before a conference that you need to print a bon You spend a week planning and writing. Then the book arrives. You diced to rewrite it or write a second book. Deadline approaches. To be sure of it arriving in time you have to pay extra for fast postage.

I went back through my gmail folder labelled Lulu to see the emails of offers I had been sent in the previous year. Offers included, 10% off. Then 15% off if you ordered one book. Thirty per cent off if you ordered five. Spend £40, save14% (that doesn't look right?) and get free ground shipping.

Save £40 on five or more books (five copies at 115 pages, for £16.98 is a toal of £85.90 but after the £40 discount it costs £45.90 plus shipping.

The next offer was save £40 on 25 or more books. 25 copies of colour at 115 pages would cost £425, with 40% off that is reduced to £169.80.

We also looked at ISSUU.
ISSUU

My friend wanted to know how I produced a book from Facebook.
BLOG2Print
Then we turned to Blog2 print which prints books from Blogger, Wordpress, Typed and Tumblr.

Not Facebook? Why was next?

BLURB
Blurb was charging Us dollars $14.99 for 20 pages and 20 centre per extra page. Going to a currency converter site we saw that was £11.57 for a twenty page book. Only 20 pages! Not enough. My friend had lots to say, as well as producing illustrations.

My Social Book
MySocialBook.com makes books by extracting your posts from Facebook or Instagram. The cost was £30.60 for 324 pages? with free shopping but covering only April to June of one year with was 2 months, at £10.??

We had been going to look at e-books but we had been going for two hours and stopped to go our separate ways and eat.

The exercise was sufficient to show my friend that if she wanted to produce a book to show to her club, she could display one book on a welcome desk, then tell people, perhaps through a flyer, that they could order the book on line. That reduced her expenditure to under 325 including postage and allowed the public to buy a reasonably priced ebook.

You could do the same kind of comparison exercise again for yourself. If you are taking notes in a lined book, I suggest you make four or five columns, to compare black and white, colour, 100 pages, 115 pages, one copy, 25 copies discount of 10%, and add shipping costs.

Author

Angela Lansbury, travel writer and photographer, author and speaker. Please share my posts.

Monday, January 30, 2017

Storing Travel Notebooks


Problem
Where to find your notes from your last trip?

Answer
Typed and printed pages from your computer and hand written notebooks with your maps and travel items in one shoe box. Some items will be too large. Include an index of items and directions to the larger items. Label shoe box on all sides.

Label the front and back of each notebook with the date and location.
Number every page in the notebook.
List the details of hotels and museums in an index in the cover.

Angela Lansbury
Travel writer and author

Friday, January 20, 2017

How to grow a plant from a coconut




Problem
How do you grow a coconut? Can you grow any coconut?

Answer
Yes, a ripe coconut from a tree, or one bought from a supermarket. You plant it up to half way in soil, leave it in a sunny spot indoors or outdoors, and water it every day.

Stories
Successful Coconut growing
I know growing coconuts works. I recently saw a coconut sitting on a table in an allotment by the path in a condominium in Singapore. I was not sure whether it was grown in soil and then dug up for planting by the full time gardens who have a plant nursery in the huge complex which has a dozen blocks of flats in a circle around an Olympic size swimming pool.
Allotments
Residents can rent a teeny allotment, the size of a single bed.

Balconies
Some residents have balconies full of plant pots. I think you should only do that if you have a full time maid to water the plants and remove dead leaves and insects and stagnant water.

Stagnant Water Dangers: Mosquitos
The Singapore government sends around inspectors to check you are not breeding mosquitos in vases and saucers on balconies, or even old shoes, buckets, or bits of bamboo for hanging out washing. The inspectors leave leaflets in several languages for everybody to read.

We had one case of Zika in a nearby block. When you get a cluster of cases, such as two, five, or ten people falling ill, the inspectors are knocking on the doors of every flat, checking the back and from balconies, looking at gutters.

Free Pot Plant
For years I was reluctant to have any plants on my balcony. Eventually, having been given a home grown aloe vera offshoot by a friend who has dozens of plants, I was keen enough to send somebody out on a motorbike to buy a plant pot. My family member came back lugging a large, heavy oblong trough.

The garden centre had no small pots. If they did, they did not reveal them. Instead they had seen the opportunity to sell a large container - plus three bags of bright orange sand.

The oblong container took half an hour to fill. The sandy soil blew all over the balcony making a mess and stains which had to be cleared up.

Discussing Cococnuts
Later that week, I asked about growing a coconut at a meeting of the members of Bukit Batok speakers' club. Several people nodded. Nobody seemed the least bit surprised at the idea.

Watching Coconut Palms
As a child and teenager I had seen pram trees in picture books but never knew there were so many types of palms.

Palm trees surround many swimming pools in condominiums in Singapore, Florida, the South of France and other warm countries. The trees look pretty and provide shade.

Not all palms are coconut palms. (Yet, logically a plan must have a coconut. If not, how do the others reproduce?)

Date Palms
Date palms have much smaller stones, encased in a soft and often mushy luscious date. I remember picking a date from the ground at Ein Gedi with a group of tourists on the path to the famous biblical waterfalls.

I identified several types of palms in Singapore. Fan shape palms are lower and pretty and fan shape. The lipstick palms with their red 'stalks' are elegant.

Over in the USA, the stately straight palms grow alongside roads in Florida in straight lines, obviously planted deliberately. Royal palms.

Once you start looking for palms, you see them all around. In the late 1900s palm trees were rare, except in two small outdoor Botanical gardens in sheltered areas, one in the north and one in Wales.

Nowadays, even in England, especially the south, including London, you see palms in people's front gardens, usually just one small palm. You can buy them from garden centres. A two year old potted palm as tall as me cost about £30 last time I asked, a year or so ago.

Avoid Sitting Under Coconut Palms
I was first told not to sit under a coconut tree when I sat down under a tree in Singapore, right in the centre of the city, at The Beaumont private complex of apartments. I lived there in a rented apartment, right the centre of Singapore, overlooking Orchard Road. An agitated member of the complex staff who was doing his daily cleaning of the pool, removing fallen coconut leaves and debris, ran over and told me not to sit under a tree.
He said: "Must not sit here. Not allowed, la!"
I was puzzled. I asked, "Why not?"
"In case coconut fall."

I thought it was a joke. I looked up and saw coconuts. Being a law abiding person, not wishing to cause trouble, I moved myself, my swim shoes, my towel, and my book, out of the shade of the coconut, over to another table into the shade of a parasol under the shade of the building. I stared back at the coconut palms.

Why were the loungers under the trees if you weren't supposed to sit there?

I vaguely remembered seeing boys running up the diagonal coconut trees on beaches to pick coconuts. Surely the coconuts fall only once a year, when they are ripe? Doesn't some keen member of staff get all the coconut as perks?

I can imagine that a crop of dates might get eaten by birds.

However, later, when I saw a coconut on the ground, I realised that logically, coconuts, like chestnuts (called conkers in England) and other seeds, must eventually fall. When coconuts get ripe, if they fall, they are large and heavy.

I'd never heard of anybody being killed by a falling coconut. It might strike you (excuse the pun) as being funny. I'm sure in real life it would not be funny at all. I looked it up on the web. Sure enough, I found a case of somebody being killed by a coconut, sheltering from sun or rain under a coconut tree.

Children might not know about the danger, just as tourists don't know.
Collecting Coconuts
Watching workmen in Singapore by the pool, alongside the coconut trees, on an orange platform, cutting down leaves and passing coconuts to the ground, recently, I was tempted to ask if I could have a coconut. I imagined that between half a dozen members of staff looking after the grounds, the coconuts would be shared out. Eventually I went over and asked.

"Are you taking all the coconuts, or can I have one?"

'Yes, take two, three, four, Ma-am, as many as you like. If not, only throw away."

I eagerly took a coconut. It was heavy. I asked the man if he would kindly put it on a nearby table. He put out four for me. He slit a strip of the outside, leaving it hanging, and tied two of the coconuts together to make them easier to carry.

I want back to the workers and asked, "Are you taking the coconuts home to eat?"

"No, no."

I wondered if the management forbade it.

I asked, "Why not?"

"Live in Malaysia, Ma'am. Too far, too heavy, to carry. Anyways, got lots of coconuts in Malaysia."

So I sent my coconuts upstairs.

My family did not share my enthusiasm.
Photo of coconuts in Singapore. Photo by Angela Lansbury. Copyright. 2017.

I was told: "Don't bring them indoors. We'll get insects everywhere. They are covered in insects!"

I left the coconuts outside the from door, they, like me, feeling and looking rejected and dejected, out in the corridor.

But the corridor was being painted. I had to move the coconuts. A worker might fall. Paint could spatter on them preventing growth, or creating a bad smell. Thinking they were unwanted, somebody might throw them away.

In England I had to ask my house sitters or neighbours to water my indoor plants. I thought of putting my orchids out of conservatory into the garden. I didn't trust the gardeners to water the plants. But the rain might do the job in springtime, although not in a hot summer with a long dry spell. Unfortunately, despite 2016 being one of the hottest years on record, overall, England has four seasons. We had snow in January in 2017.

Afterwards I looked at my aloe vera plant growing in a pot on the balcony in Singapore. It has survived on its own for several weeks when nobody remembered to water it or when everybody was away. Bingo! That's where my coconuts could sit. Singapore rarely goes a day without rain.

On the other hand, I remember what I was told by a taxi driver when I first arrived in Singapore, 'Trees grow full height in three years"

How soon would my coconut grow? How tall would it grow? How urgently did I need to water it? Would it never grow if it dried out? Surely not. The coconuts you buy from supermarkets have coconut milk inside.

I shall keep you posted on the progress of my coconuts.

Tips
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut

Video on growing in the US in a conservatory if you are not in the humid tropics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv4JaCFbTdI

On Youtube another video (from New Zealand?) on how to choose a supermarket coconut which is dehusced, if you can hear the coconut milk switching around; then grow a coconut indoors in a pail of water in a hot cupboard, weighted down in the water by a rock, then kept humid in a plastic bag with a little water for humidity, the green shoot going out of the black circular dot or 'eye' which faces up to the sun, and a brown root growing downwards over the outside. Results are seen after about about a month. You can subscribe to this man's site for updates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BieelvE_ZPI

The green coconut is young and provides an almost colourless and thin coconut water. A few months later the coconut turns brown and you have less of the liquid and more of the 'meat'. Coconut 'milk', whiter and creamier, more like milk, is extracted from the meat.
https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/edible/fruits/coconut/when-are-coconuts-ripe.htm

Author
Angela Lansbury, travel writer and photographer, teacher and tutor of English for adults, author of 20 books on subjects such as Wedding Speeches and Toasts, etiquette, quotations, educational and humorous poetry on animals.Read my profiles and posts on Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram, videos on YouTube, books on Amazon.com and Lulu.com . Thank you for reading. Comments welcome. Please like my posts, follow and share.

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